You know, the thing that bugs me is the fact these pigs felt (and probably still feel) they are entitled to do this stuff. Over the course of my days, I've been in a management position with many people reporting to me at various levels for over 30 years. I can tell you I NEVER even THOUGHT about groping anyone, let alone using my position to tell someone I would promote them or do them favors in exchange for sexual acts. I promoted several women in my day, sometimes to the disapproval of others. The only thing I gave a damn about was if these people, men or women, were capable of the position and responsibilities I was training them. And yes, sexual harassment and favors were exchanged in 4 companies I called home over those 30 years. Two women I knew were particularly willing to spread their legs to move up. They were both astonished when I rebuffed them (and they WERE gorgeous). But once you sell your soul like that, there's really no going back. At the end of the day, you've got to be able to live with yourself. Apparently in Hollywood, morals and scruples are pretty cheap.

Now, don't get me wrong. Dating within the work place I have no issues with. Many people meet, date, and marry people from the workplace. Hell, my wife and I are an example. But we were friends for over a year and had gone out on many 'work functions' and parties and late nights at the bar together, and with others, before something finally happened. And that didn't occur until AFTER we had been transferred into different locations. And still we kept it under wraps for 3-4 months. Mainly because if it didn't work out, we didn't want to be the subject of the inevitable workplace rumors and gossip. Honestly, in today's super-charged atmosphere, i don't know if our relationship even gets off the ground.

But these people make me sick. Especially that POS Weinstein. And Spacey going after a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD? Put him right there with Woody Allen and Roman Polanski. The under-age sex is really going to end some careers. I just wonder if Corey Feldman will name names, and be credible.

I see now that Netflix has canceled HOUSE OF CARDS - and claiming they decided months ago this would be the final season. Maybe that's true. But the timing is very suspicious. I mean, less than 18 hours after the Spacey story breaks? Coincidence? Maybe. I don't mind though, as the show had become absurd of late.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

Stop conflating murder and sex crimes.

That wasn't me conflating anything. That was an example showing how you conflated two different things, but removing the media-frenzy aspect or whatever it might be called, so that hopefully you'd understand. Sadly, you evidently still don't. It seems you're blinded by scandal, or something.

Here's what YOU said.

"That's statutory rape, not pedophilia."

Because you started with a case of statutory rape, or at least attempted, and then switched to pedophilia which is not the same thing. (And at least so far as I've heard, there are no accusations of actual pedophilia from Hollyweird in these situations.) That was YOUR mistake, and being (probably fake) outraged about it doesn't change it.

@CalabrianQueen said:

And it's funny, he constantly criticizes me for my youth and for being a Grad student while he's this grand purveyor of "experience", but it's all horseschitt. Guarantee you he couldn't beat our freshman debate team.

Do you really think "debate teams" actually prove anything factual? Wow, that's SO childish. And sounds like you don't really understand much about how it works. Do you also believe "professional wrestling" is real?

It does fit the pattern, though. You think that if you can score enough "points" for "style" etc while arguing that 2+2=5, you must be right. When you were a kid, did you think you won because you said something with your arms crossed? Actually you probably still think that NOW.

You've never seen a collegiate debate. As a matter of fact, based on how you act on here, I doubt you've left your house without a helmet on.

Another arms-crossed shout from the kids table. Hi-Q at least had the advantage of... reality.

Meanwhile, in another part of the world:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4826807/dutch-tv-show-raped-or-not-victim-weinstein/

@Knixon said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

Stop conflating murder and sex crimes.

That wasn't me conflating anything. That was an example showing how you conflated two different things, but removing the media-frenzy aspect or whatever it might be called, so that hopefully you'd understand. Sadly, you evidently still don't. It seems you're blinded by scandal, or something.

Sadly - you don't recognize sarcasm.

You are well past beginning to bore me.

@CalabrianQueen said:

You've never seen a collegiate debate. As a matter of fact, based on how you act on here, I doubt you've left your house without a helmet on.

I'll be honest - I can't even get through more than the first sentence of this idiot's posts anymore. It's clear he's either one of the world's dumbest humans, or a troll. Either way, I'm about ready to stop engaging him in discussion. Mainly because he doesn't discuss, he babbles while tossing together terms and ideas he doesn't and/or refuses to comprehend - but thinks stringing them together and combining them with his 'imagination' somehow makes him clever. Unfortunately for him, it proves the exact opposite.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

... he doesn't discuss, he babbles while tossing together terms and ideas he doesn't and/or refuses to comprehend - but thinks stringing them together and combining them with his 'imagination' somehow makes him clever. Unfortunately for him, it proves the exact opposite.

"Sez you." And is that supposed to matter, or something?

“Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”

― Albert Einstein

Anyway...

It will be interesting to see how far this goes. HOUSE OF CARDS has now suspended production of the now final season indefinitely.
My guess is they were thinking of ending HOC, but this made the decision pretty easy. I'll also speculate as to why the production has shut down, beyond what they've stated. First, they are probably re-writing scripts to make sure the ending is permanent, and leaves no doors open that there might have actually been an additional season or two. Second, because they need to check their insurance situation and liability issues/concerns for having Spacey on the set in the event another issues occurred. In other words, they need to get their legal status secured. Lastly, they will likely go and interview each and every crew member and actor and make sure they have no issues continuing to work with Spacey, and likely will have them sign a document saying so. Because now that Spacey's past behavior is out in the open, the production team would have even more liability for Spacey's unwanted advances.

After that, I think Spacey is done.

And now we have Dustin Hoffman and his accusers. The question isn't "Will there be anymore people who stand accessed". It's "who's the next one to fall?"

I must say, even though HOC has gone downhill the last couple of seasons, if they end up never finishing this season, or if they simply write out Spacey's character and try to wrap it up without him, it will be disappointing. But then again, we can't have Spacey running around harassing people.

It will be curious to see if Ben Affleck's issues negatively impact JUSTICE LEAGUE. People on the net are already calling Affleck "Buttman". I think his role as Batman will probably be recast no matter how JUSTICE LEAGUE performs.

@Knixon said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

... he doesn't discuss, he babbles while tossing together terms and ideas he doesn't and/or refuses to comprehend - but thinks stringing them together and combining them with his 'imagination' somehow makes him clever. Unfortunately for him, it proves the exact opposite.

"Sez you." And is that supposed to matter, or something?

“Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”

― Albert Einstein

Are you attempting to compare yourself to Albert Einstein ? Lmao

Maybe Albert Desalvo but definitely not Einstein.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

Anyway...

It will be interesting to see how far this goes. HOUSE OF CARDS has now suspended production of the now final season indefinitely.
My guess is they were thinking of ending HOC, but this made the decision pretty easy. I'll also speculate as to why the production has shut down, beyond what they've stated. First, they are probably re-writing scripts to make sure the ending is permanent, and leaves no doors open that there might have actually been an additional season or two. Second, because they need to check their insurance situation and liability issues/concerns for having Spacey on the set in the event another issues occurred. In other words, they need to get their legal status secured. Lastly, they will likely go and interview each and every crew member and actor and make sure they have no issues continuing to work with Spacey, and likely will have them sign a document saying so. Because now that Spacey's past behavior is out in the open, the production team would have even more liability for Spacey's unwanted advances.

After that, I think Spacey is done.

And now we have Dustin Hoffman and his accusers. The question isn't "Will there be anymore people who stand accessed". It's "who's the next one to fall?"

I must say, even though HOC has gone downhill the last couple of seasons, if they end up never finishing this season, or if they simply write out Spacey's character and try to wrap it up without him, it will be disappointing. But then again, we can't have Spacey running around harassing people.

It will be curious to see if Ben Affleck's issues negatively impact JUSTICE LEAGUE. People on the net are already calling Affleck "Buttman". I think his role as Batman will probably be recast no matter how JUSTICE LEAGUE performs.

Spacey is now toxic and I'm convinced his career is over. I just find it shocking how quickly someone can be ruined by allegations alone; seems like anyone in Hollywood with a semblance of an axe to grind can just throw out accusations and see any person's career and reputation destroyed immediately.

It's scary.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

Anyway...

It will be interesting to see how far this goes. HOUSE OF CARDS has now suspended production of the now final season indefinitely.
My guess is they were thinking of ending HOC, but this made the decision pretty easy. I'll also speculate as to why the production has shut down, beyond what they've stated. First, they are probably re-writing scripts to make sure the ending is permanent, and leaves no doors open that there might have actually been an additional season or two. Second, because they need to check their insurance situation and liability issues/concerns for having Spacey on the set in the event another issues occurred. In other words, they need to get their legal status secured. Lastly, they will likely go and interview each and every crew member and actor and make sure they have no issues continuing to work with Spacey, and likely will have them sign a document saying so. Because now that Spacey's past behavior is out in the open, the production team would have even more liability for Spacey's unwanted advances.

After that, I think Spacey is done.

And now we have Dustin Hoffman and his accusers. The question isn't "Will there be anymore people who stand accessed". It's "who's the next one to fall?"

I must say, even though HOC has gone downhill the last couple of seasons, if they end up never finishing this season, or if they simply write out Spacey's character and try to wrap it up without him, it will be disappointing. But then again, we can't have Spacey running around harassing people.

It will be curious to see if Ben Affleck's issues negatively impact JUSTICE LEAGUE. People on the net are already calling Affleck "Buttman". I think his role as Batman will probably be recast no matter how JUSTICE LEAGUE performs.

Harvey was just the levees breaking. Now we're seeing the flood because people know they can make their accusations public without fear of being blacklisted now. I say let the whole thing crumble if the corruption runs that deeply. There are plenty of young talented up and coming directors and producers and waiting in the wings to replace the incumbent scumbags.

@ArcticFox12 said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

Anyway...

It will be interesting to see how far this goes. HOUSE OF CARDS has now suspended production of the now final season indefinitely.
My guess is they were thinking of ending HOC, but this made the decision pretty easy. I'll also speculate as to why the production has shut down, beyond what they've stated. First, they are probably re-writing scripts to make sure the ending is permanent, and leaves no doors open that there might have actually been an additional season or two. Second, because they need to check their insurance situation and liability issues/concerns for having Spacey on the set in the event another issues occurred. In other words, they need to get their legal status secured. Lastly, they will likely go and interview each and every crew member and actor and make sure they have no issues continuing to work with Spacey, and likely will have them sign a document saying so. Because now that Spacey's past behavior is out in the open, the production team would have even more liability for Spacey's unwanted advances.

After that, I think Spacey is done.

And now we have Dustin Hoffman and his accusers. The question isn't "Will there be anymore people who stand accessed". It's "who's the next one to fall?"

I must say, even though HOC has gone downhill the last couple of seasons, if they end up never finishing this season, or if they simply write out Spacey's character and try to wrap it up without him, it will be disappointing. But then again, we can't have Spacey running around harassing people.

It will be curious to see if Ben Affleck's issues negatively impact JUSTICE LEAGUE. People on the net are already calling Affleck "Buttman". I think his role as Batman will probably be recast no matter how JUSTICE LEAGUE performs.

Spacey is now toxic and I'm convinced his career is over. I just find it shocking how quickly someone can be ruined by allegations alone; seems like anyone in Hollywood with a semblance of an axe to grind can just throw out accusations and see any person's career and reputation destroyed immediately.

It's scary.

Let's be clear, these people are not being ruined by 'allegations'. They are being ruined because their own behavior is coming back to haunt them. If someone (besides Weinstein) comes out and vehemently denies an allegation - I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. These people are giving APOLOGIES. Meaning they know damn well that their past behavior, likely with multiple people, makes a full throated denial impossible. These aren't people with an ax to grind coming out. These are the victims. The scary thing is how prevalent it apparently is with high ranking producers and stars - and we're nowhere near finished yet. This could be the biggest industry sexual harassment scandal since the Catholic Church. And the sickest thing is the target of much of these sick people were young men and women, and in some cases, minors/children.

@CalabrianQueen said:

@Knixon said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

... he doesn't discuss, he babbles while tossing together terms and ideas he doesn't and/or refuses to comprehend - but thinks stringing them together and combining them with his 'imagination' somehow makes him clever. Unfortunately for him, it proves the exact opposite.

"Sez you." And is that supposed to matter, or something?

“Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”

― Albert Einstein

Are you attempting to compare yourself to Albert Einstein ? Lmao

Maybe Albert Desalvo but definitely not Einstein.

I figured someone would make that mistake too, not really surprised it's you.

Can you not see how someone could quote someone - including Einstein - without claiming a direct comparison with them? If I quoted Einstein "The sky is blue" or "Nazis are evil" would you make the same ridiculous comment?

@CalabrianQueen said:

@censorshipsucks06 said:

Anyway...

It will be interesting to see how far this goes. HOUSE OF CARDS has now suspended production of the now final season indefinitely.
My guess is they were thinking of ending HOC, but this made the decision pretty easy. I'll also speculate as to why the production has shut down, beyond what they've stated. First, they are probably re-writing scripts to make sure the ending is permanent, and leaves no doors open that there might have actually been an additional season or two. Second, because they need to check their insurance situation and liability issues/concerns for having Spacey on the set in the event another issues occurred. In other words, they need to get their legal status secured. Lastly, they will likely go and interview each and every crew member and actor and make sure they have no issues continuing to work with Spacey, and likely will have them sign a document saying so. Because now that Spacey's past behavior is out in the open, the production team would have even more liability for Spacey's unwanted advances.

After that, I think Spacey is done.

And now we have Dustin Hoffman and his accusers. The question isn't "Will there be anymore people who stand accessed". It's "who's the next one to fall?"

I must say, even though HOC has gone downhill the last couple of seasons, if they end up never finishing this season, or if they simply write out Spacey's character and try to wrap it up without him, it will be disappointing. But then again, we can't have Spacey running around harassing people.

It will be curious to see if Ben Affleck's issues negatively impact JUSTICE LEAGUE. People on the net are already calling Affleck "Buttman". I think his role as Batman will probably be recast no matter how JUSTICE LEAGUE performs.

Harvey was just the levees breaking. Now we're seeing the flood because people know they can make their accusations public without fear of being blacklisted now. I say let the whole thing crumble if the corruption runs that deeply. There are plenty of young talented up and coming directors and producers and waiting in the wings to replace the incumbent scumbags.

I tend to agree about the up and coming talent. All you have to do is take a look at the explosion of streaming TV shows. Many of them have very small budgets, but talented directors and producers are still making some great television. I wouldn't be at all disappointed if they transitioned to the major studios. At the very least, maybe we'd get a break from sequels, prequels, and super heroes - and actually see some originality on the silver screen again.