I'd forgotten about Affleck and the nanny. So many things overshadowed by more recent events.... But I also don't underestimate how different our perceptions of these things are, compared to those "inside" Hollywood. People who worked closely with Weinstein for years/decades and apparently knew all along what was going on, remained silent until recently. Same with Spacey and others. There could have been people - other than the accusers coming out now - who knew that Affleck had been doing some similar things too, but kept it "in the family" until now. Except someone let Jennifer know. Or she might have known earlier too, but once the nanny incident became public she felt she had to act to protect her own image.

Georgina Chapman will probably have a comfortable life afterward. Maybe she actually loved him and really didn't know about his activities all this time, although that seems pretty unlikely. It may be like Dennis Miller used to say about Bill and Hillary Clinton, "That marriage couldn't be any more about convenience if there was a Slim Jim rack and a Slurpee machine at the foot of their bed."

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@Knixon said:

Have there been any divorces beginning yet, because of this? Seems like it would be inevitable at some point, at least a few, especially if the accusations include things that took place during the marriage. Since there have been some accusations put against Ben Affleck, makes it a question if maybe at least in part, wife Jennifer Garner found out about what was coming and decided to get out of the way, hence their divorce filing early this year. But they'd been separates for a while already, so maybe not. Or maybe it wasn't about the possibility of coming public accusations, but she found out about stuff herself.

I think your speculation about Affleck and Garner is far off. First - how could anyone have seen what we are now witnessing in Hollywood "coming"? Especially in Affleck's case - where he got caught up in it because he felt the need to self-righteously Tweet about Weinstein - and that's the main reason the accusation about him surfaced - as a refutation of his Tweet.

I'd say a marriage coming to an end like Garner's and Affleck's, isn't remotely shocking - given that it's an established fact Affleck cheated on Garner with their own nanny. So I don't think, in part, Garner 'found out what was coming'. It's far more likely rooted in previous existing problems.

Now, as usual, I'm sure you'll counter and cling to your original hypothesis, and that's both fine and typical - since that's how your brain functions.

To answer your first question - Georgina Chapman is divorcing Harvey Weinstein.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/harvey-weinstein-wife-georgina-chapman-divorcing-divorce-1202586378/

I wonder how long CBS has been holding their breath waiting for Lorre accusations. God forbid.

@ArcticFox12 said:

I wonder how long CBS has been holding their breath waiting for Lorre accusations. God forbid.

At this point, I think TBBT could move along just fine without Chuck. And I wouldn't miss YOUNG SHELDON.

Oddly enough, TBBT is really the only Lorre show I enjoy. I couldn't stand Two and a Half Men.

How about his other show, Mom? It seems to get decent ratings still, although it got too depressing for me to watch after season one.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@ArcticFox12 said:

I wonder how long CBS has been holding their breath waiting for Lorre accusations. God forbid.

At this point, I think TBBT could move along just fine without Chuck. And I wouldn't miss YOUNG SHELDON.

Oddly enough, TBBT is really the only Lorre show I enjoy. I couldn't stand Two and a Half Men.

I hate every show he's made except Big Bang theory. 2 and a half men's formula got old really quick , one brother is an abnormally wealthy jingle writer and all -around prick ,the other is an emasculated man -child . It never grew beyond that.

The kid and the rest of the supporting cast didn't help.

@ArcticFox12 said:

I hate every show he's made except Big Bang theory. 2 and a half men's formula got old really quick , one brother is an abnormally wealthy jingle writer and all -around prick ,the other is an emasculated man -child . It never grew beyond that.

The kid and the rest of the supporting cast didn't help.

The similarities between that story concept and BBT should not be overlooked. Basically similar ingredients, mixed a bit differently and somewhat less extreme. Perhaps the biggest difference is that the BBT cast members themselves are more likeable? And arguably Bernadette and the others contribute more than Berta and the kid did.

@Knixon said:

How about his other show, Mom? It seems to get decent ratings still, although it got too depressing for me to watch after season one.

I can't watch "MOM". Allison Janney, from the little I've seen, plays the comedy WAY over the top.

In general, I think most Broadcast Network TV these days is garbage. For the most part, they are still stuck in the same formula since the 1970's. So for something on these networks to work - it has to be top notch. ESPECIALLY comedies.

I frankly don't know how anyone can watch 100+ of these NCIS/CSI/L&O shows, where week in and week out the killer is always caught at the end of the hour. Back in the 1970's, that's all we had, so it was okay (and I was a dumb kid). Today, I'm sorry - you'd have to check your brain at the door to think those are well written series'. But hey, if people like it - have at it. I'm sure some think TWD is absurd.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@Knixon said:

How about his other show, Mom? It seems to get decent ratings still, although it got too depressing for me to watch after season one.

I can't watch "MOM". Allison Janney, from the little I've seen, plays the comedy WAY over the top.

In general, I think most Broadcast Network TV these days is garbage. For the most part, they are still stuck in the same formula since the 1970's. So for something on these networks to work - it has to be top notch. ESPECIALLY comedies.

I frankly don't know how anyone can watch 100+ of these NCIS/CSI/L&O shows, where week in and week out the killer is always caught at the end of the hour. Back in the 1970's, that's all we had, so it was okay (and I was a dumb kid). Today, I'm sorry - you'd have to check your brain at the door to think those are well written series'. But hey, if people like it - have at it. I'm sure some think TWD is absurd.

Umm, TWD certainly IS absurd.

I rather enjoyed the first season of Mom, but it started feeling rather "evil" towards the end of the season and the season finale/season 2 premiere were just off the deep end for me, I couldn't take any more.

@Knixon said:

Umm, TWD certainly IS absurd.

lol

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@Knixon said:

Umm, TWD certainly IS absurd.

lol

You might enjoy this, Lileks is always great and this one is about TWD:

https://www.adrive.com/public/meXxr7/James%20Lileks'%20The%20Ramble%2012-23-15%20Ep.%201_%20The%20Walking%20Dead.mp3

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@Knixon said:

How about his other show, Mom? It seems to get decent ratings still, although it got too depressing for me to watch after season one.

I can't watch "MOM". Allison Janney, from the little I've seen, plays the comedy WAY over the top.

In general, I think most Broadcast Network TV these days is garbage. For the most part, they are still stuck in the same formula since the 1970's. So for something on these networks to work - it has to be top notch. ESPECIALLY comedies.

I frankly don't know how anyone can watch 100+ of these NCIS/CSI/L&O shows, where week in and week out the killer is always caught at the end of the hour. Back in the 1970's, that's all we had, so it was okay (and I was a dumb kid). Today, I'm sorry - you'd have to check your brain at the door to think those are well written series'. But hey, if people like it - have at it. I'm sure some think TWD is absurd.

There's too many sitcoms that go for rapid fire punchlines and not enough sitcoms that are legitamately creative.

I believe that's why all the most critically acclaimed shows on TV seem to be dramas. Very few people are doing comedy justice.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

I frankly don't know how anyone can watch 100+ of these NCIS/CSI/L&O shows, where week in and week out the killer is always caught at the end of the hour. Back in the 1970's, that's all we had, so it was okay (and I was a dumb kid). Today, I'm sorry - you'd have to check your brain at the door to think those are well written series'.

Oops, I forgot about this part. I never got into the L&O shows, or CSI except for some of the original series. I enjoyed JAG except for the last season which got rather dumb in some ways. And I started out following NCIS although it got less and less interesting and I finally bailed completely when Bishop showed up. I never even got started with NCIS: Los Angeles because it didn't seem to really involve Navy/military stuff most of the time, at least not in credible ways; and NCIS: New Orleans seemed to have similar problems plus I couldn't forgive them for having Zoe McLellan be a different character than she played on JAG. They should have had her be Coates still, after changing specialty etc.

@censorshipsucks06 said:

@Knixon said:

How about his other show, Mom? It seems to get decent ratings still, although it got too depressing for me to watch after season one.

I can't watch "MOM". Allison Janney, from the little I've seen, plays the comedy WAY over the top.

In general, I think most Broadcast Network TV these days is garbage. For the most part, they are still stuck in the same formula since the 1970's. So for something on these networks to work - it has to be top notch. ESPECIALLY comedies.

I frankly don't know how anyone can watch 100+ of these NCIS/CSI/L&O shows, where week in and week out the killer is always caught at the end of the hour. Back in the 1970's, that's all we had, so it was okay (and I was a dumb kid). Today, I'm sorry - you'd have to check your brain at the door to think those are well written series'. But hey, if people like it - have at it. I'm sure some think TWD is absurd.

BTW , I pretty much love the whole police procedural genre. Even though the portrayal of forensics are completely innacurate and devoid of red tape to make it more entertaining, I still like the behind-the-scenes veiw into law protocol.

Hollywood has a very distinct formula they use to write cop shows; I think we've gotten accustomed to it so it forces new cop shows to create new angles e.g SVU, supernatural elements, law psychology in Criminal Minds.

As this continues to spread beyond Hollywood, here's one in honor of Charlie Rose.

Every Rose Has It's Thorn

As for Roy Moore - he needs to GO NOW. As Ivanka Trump said, there's a special place in hell for those who molest children.

And the latest now on John Conyers? Well, those of us in Michigan have known for years this guy is dirty. His 'wife' served time in jail for bribery and other crimes. BTW - she's the a former Detroit City Councilwoman. As foul a human as I've ever seen. Yet his idiotic district keeps returning him to Congress over and over.

Ah, but noticing that John Conyers is - and always has been - a dirtbag, is racist. Same with Marion Barry, etc.