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He may not admit it but if he didnt care about Katheryn he would have never asked that masseuse to leave. Katheryn was just toying with them but he needs to remember that shes had 4 affairs. She can get a man. For a minite I thought Jim and Katheryn were gonna try to work things out but I think they are alwaya gonna be at each others throats because of the way TP has written them.

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I thought so, too. It was the best scene of the night. I wouldn't have minded more of that and a lot less of boring Candace.

I think Jim and Kathryn are so used to being that way with each other, they don't know how to be any other way.

I was secretly hoping that Jim was gonna throw Katheryn on the bed and do what David was doing with Erica. I dont think either Cryer will leave or get divorced. But for once they had a real parent conversation about finding Wyatt. They actually make a good couple if TP would change the writing to make Katheryn hate Jim less and Jim be a better husband- calling her a whore in the kitchen isnt cutting it.

Yep, Candice is beyond boring at this point but yet she is still the main focus with the everylasting over done long @ss scenes and this whole thing with the future extremely young President is so unrealistic.

Jim, Kat and the masseuse was highlight of the night for me. They're pretty entertaining together when they're not doing the blame game routine. The scene where Kat rushes to the jail to see Jim and he calls her "baby" made me melt. I want more of that from them. Jim has put her through a lot so it's too soon for a reconciliation but I'd be happy with moments where he's tender to her and she let's down her guard with him briefly.

I love Jim and Kathryn. From a writing standpoint, I don't get why TP can't see all the untapped potential these two have. instead he thinks everyone is fascinated with Candace "I haven't had a lick of character development since day one" Young. I remember Tika played in some picture about how Barack and Michelle met each other and Tika was Michelle, so I'm guessing that's where this story with boring Cha-rack is coming from.

I also don't care if they make Wy-Wy gay or paint him with pink polka dots. I don't want to see Wy-Wy and Jeffrey as a couple because Wy-Wy is toxic to Jeffrey. It's crazy, since Justin gave me the creeps at the start, but I'm on Team Justin. I think Justin has a white Veronica as a mother and he's done what Veronica is trying to force Jeffrey to do and pretend he isn't gay and marry a woman. Jeffrey makes Justin better, because when Jeffrey met him he was really messed up and he's gotten better being with Jeffrey. Wy-Wy just tries to bring down and belittle Jeffrey, but when he's needy he wants Jeffrey there to wipe his nose for him. It probably doesn't hurt Justin is better looking than Wy-Wy and he's also a better actor. Since Wy-Wy keeps holding his head I figure he's going to have a stroke or something and they'll put him in another coma for another season. That's really the only time Wy-Wy is tolerable. When he's unconscious.

@ncmom21 said:

He may not admit it but if he didnt care about Katheryn he would have never asked that masseuse to leave. Katheryn was just toying with them but he needs to remember that shes had 4 affairs. She can get a man. For a minite I thought Jim and Katheryn were gonna try to work things out but I think they are alwaya gonna be at each others throats because of the way TP has written them.

Exactly. Although I felt bad for the masseuse because he was in the middle of it and did not want Katheryn, it was great to see Jim squirm. Katherine should just go all How Stella got her groove back and forget Jim altogether lol and show him what he's missing. It seems like Jim responds to jealously well lol, it seems to bring out how much he cares. It is irritating how TP doesn't try to build off of that tension. I thought for sure they were going to hook up. Either TP needs to let them go their separate ways while still working together for their son or allow them to use that great chemistry and have a relationship.

I'm not sure if TP can write a good relationship. If you look at all the relationships on the show they're dysfunctional bordering on being completely toxic. And it's not just the romantic pairings. There should have been some small progress on the Hanna/Candace front by now.

@IveGotASecret said:

I'm not sure if TP can write a good relationship. If you look at all the relationships on the show they're dysfunctional bordering on being completely toxic. And it's not just the romantic pairings. There should have been some small progress on the Hanna/Candace front by now.

Very true. Sorry for the late reply I've been busy with school. I completely agree. Even in shows like Shameless where their lives are always screw up they even have time for stable relationships every now and than. Dysfunction gets boring and repetitive after a while. All of these relationships could be further along right now.

Good Luck with school beedray26!!!! I did that many years ago and it was hard. You can do it!!!

I did nursing school with 2 kids.

@ncmom21 said:

Good Luck with school beedray26!!!! I did that many years ago and it was hard. You can do it!!!

I did nursing school with 2 kids.

Thanks for the support! It's inspiring especially with having kids while going through school as well. I'm in the process of trying to get into grad school now so I'll be in school for a while lol. But I'm definitely gonna keep going even when it get's tough. Are you an RN? I'm looking to do something in the health field so I was curious.

I am. I was an accountant but it wasnt my thing so I went back to school at 28. My advice to you would be to go into the medical field or the civil engineering field. Those fields you will always have a job. If you decide to do an RN, physical therapy or respiratory therapy program do 4 years and not 2. Having a 4 year degree opens doors faster than an associates degree and you will make more in the end. Best of Luck to you on whatever you choose, just love what you do, have a passion for it.

@ncmom21 said:

I am. I was an accountant but it wasnt my thing so I went back to school at 28. My advice to you would be to go into the medical field or the civil engineering field. Those fields you will always have a job. If you decide to do an RN, physical therapy or respiratory therapy program do 4 years and not 2. Having a 4 year degree opens doors faster than an associates degree and you will make more in the end. Best of Luck to you on whatever you choose, just love what you do, have a passion for it.

Great! I have a four year degree but I am trying to go in Pharmacy or being a Chiropractor possibly. I am seeing what's out there and opening my options. It was difficult to leave but I had to and I'm not giving up on pursuing something in the health field. I definitely want a rewarding career that will make me happy to go to work everyday. Thanks for the words of encouragement.

pharmaceuticals would also be a great and secure profession. Good luck to you and whatever you decide.

@ncmom21 said:

pharmaceuticals would also be a great and secure profession. Good luck to you and whatever you decide.

Thanks again! I really appreciate the encouragement.

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