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Will anyone miss Littlefinger?
posted by KylopodSTAFFMOD on August 28, 2017 at 8:37 PM
I know he was clearly a bad guy who richly deserved his fate, but it didn't create the same sense of satisfaction as the demise of characters like Joffrey or Ramsay or Myranda. For one thing, he was one of the smartest characters on the entire series, and I always felt that part of the show's pragmatic, cynical philosophy was that people like him are the ones most likely to survive in the GoT universe. In a way I thought of him as Martin's ideal vision of the character with the best understanding of how to "play the game of thrones." Ironically, a lot of the things he says are very good advice; he's like the Yoda of sociopaths.
I wonder if it was ever Martin's plan for him to die in the book series.
Reply by Kylopod
on August 29, 2017 at 6:18 PM
Huh, TMDB censored that word? (It's the word for someone whose parents aren't married.) That's a curse word? And I was able to get the word "baths!t" through in the same comment? This site is weird.
Reply by Xsploit
on August 29, 2017 at 6:25 PM
hah, i dont think any words should be banned tbh, considering the show we are talking about uses all types of words. No one needs to life LF he clearly has enough money to pay many people to be on his side
Reply by Kylopod
on August 29, 2017 at 6:33 PM
The bottom line is that Sansa was intent on not letting him leave the room alive. LF saw the writing on the wall and had a lot less leverage than Tyrion did in the Vale.
Reply by Xsploit
on August 29, 2017 at 6:38 PM
He was my one of my favorite characters, after arya and tyrion, disapointed to see him go
Reply by Bloodshot77
on August 29, 2017 at 9:09 PM
Remember when Little finger threatened to throw Yohn Royce from the moondoor at the Vale? Maybe that's why he just stood by. Don't think he was very well liked. Yohn just said 🖕
Reply by Xsploit
on August 29, 2017 at 9:24 PM
most of the people in that room would be dead if it wasnt for him was weird that no one stood up for him
Reply by Hypnocratic Goat
on August 29, 2017 at 10:16 PM
No. Except for Sansa, Arya, and Bran, all the people in that room were Vale soldiers. They were the ones who came to the rescue at the Battle of the Bastards. And they're probably loyal to Royce. On top of that they now know Littlefinger murdered Lady Arryn.
You don't seem to realize that Sansa set the whole thing up. Everyone in that room was there because Sansa planned it that way. Littlefinger wasn't going to find any friends there, and he knew it once he realized what was happening.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on August 29, 2017 at 10:17 PM
"Yeah, a flogging for Littlefinger would have been epic."
Actually nobody ever gets flogged in Game of Thrones, even though it was a common midieval punishment. Rat torture yes, flaying, yes, Ramsey's dungeon yes. Flogging, no. The only example was orders from Joffrey, which Tyrion overrode both times.
Reply by Kylopod
on August 29, 2017 at 10:22 PM
Just so everyone knows: the "MangeSkeeves" commenter is a troll. I've seen him all over this site on the forums for various films and shows, and he always posts self-evidently inane and inspid things that have got little or nothing to do with the topic at hand. He should be ignored.
Reply by snoho
on October 10, 2017 at 5:20 PM
Lysa, Robin, and Littlefinger don't exactly inspire loyalty.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on October 11, 2017 at 9:43 AM
"Lysa, Robin, and Littlefinger don't exactly inspire loyalty."
Exactly. Littlefinger's only claim to the Guardianship is that he is Robin's stepfather, having been married to his mother for 24 hours. Not a very firm emotion bond for the Vale populance, who are probably sick of their crazy rulers anyway.
And Littlefinger probably figured that if he asked for trial by combat, he would have to fight Arya, which would be hopeless. ( We don't know the entire trial-by-combat rules. Unless one is an invalid like Tyrion, the prisoner may need to fight his own battle).
Reply by RustyShackleworth
on October 11, 2017 at 4:02 PM
On a side note, is Robin now the Lord of the Vale? That hardly inspires confidence or loyalty.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on October 11, 2017 at 10:59 PM
"On a side note, is Robin now the Lord of the Vale?"
Robin has been Lord of the Vale ever since Lord Arryn was murdered in the very first episode of the series. But for obvious reasons, the grownups make all the decisions on his behalf.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on October 11, 2017 at 11:09 PM
Just realized something about Lord Royce. Back in Season 5, Sansa perjured herself before Royce and said that Lysa committed suicide and Littlefinger was innocent of her death. In season 7, Sansa says Littlefinger DID do the murder and Royce believes THIS version as well.
Probably Royce figured out on his own during the two years that Littlefinger did it and Sansa was terrified into lying. That wasn't strictly true but makes his behaviour consistent.
Reply by Strawberry Shortcake
on October 12, 2017 at 9:37 AM
I don't think so.
I believe Royce didn't like LF from the beginning, and the despicable way LF treated him in "Book of the Stranger" (accused Royce of selling Sansa to the Boltons and nearly got him killed) - increased his hatred. Therefore he didn't intervene to point out Sansa had told him a completely difference story about Lysa's death. For the same reason he defied LF's order to escort him to the Vale, and it had nothing to do whether Royce believed Sansa's first or second version about Lysa's death.
In other words, LF reaped what he sowed.