@Dark_Sithlord said:

@Poetist said:

@Dark_Sithlord said:

I'm not sure I agree completely. I would guess the pic was taken by someone who is unfamiliar/unknown to Cavil and Lucy. Their smiles are not genuine, which means they could have been posing during an uncomfortable moment for a fan or something, and not necessarily feeling any tension in their own relationship, per se.

Dark, what I post is body language science. I don't create scenarios. I just interpret the body signals and if they come with reasons I will offer them. For example, hidden hands tend to suggest deception or hiding. I will joke every now and then, but I don't offer up excuses for the body language.

Fair enough. You seem to get a lot of requests to do readings for Cavill.

I personally don't feel showing teeth or not means anything, maybe that's just his smile sometimes. I show my teeth sometimes, sometimes I don't it doesn't mean anything at all, doesn't mean I'm genuinely happy or not.

@culinary16 said:

@Poetist The same as previous pics, a dud? https://www.instagram.com/p/BY06W9RDw_J/?taken-by=armie_army

Culinary, of course, this is a dud, but it's an interesting one.

Take a look at HC and the fan.

Do you see a gap? Nope. It appears HC feels comfortable around this fan.

Do you see symmetry? Yes. HC and the fan's heads are tilted in the same direction -- again he feels comfortable next to this fan.

Comparing Lucy and HC, there is no head symmetry and their heads aren't tilted in the same direction.

As usual, HC doesn't show teeth, and now, he's continuing to not show his hands.

MY PERCEPTION is that HC tends to hide his exposed hand most of the time when he's with female fans or smaller/possibly gay guys.

Case in point:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vxTQiHYhfU0/VbgqMsupG8I/AAAAAAAAuEE/i6CiSm5cjhI/s1600/IMG_2132.JPG

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4b/91/95/4b9195e1ac0d2ee9c0cd56e0e51608af--friday-nights-henry-cavill.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnXxE68Ow4BxJ2OzhCQg3Vlf4BhN6f75uw0jcI8qfkuOQDYrX5

http://henrycavill.org/images/Candids/2013-10-22/fricker77.jpg

As I said in an earlier post, group pics are hard, but we should see something by now. Here is a pic of three, where the subjects appear to be genuine.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1f/11/b9/1f11b9113c7dc203bd066b36e7da1f31--trio-costumes-halloween-costumes-for-girls.jpg

Notice no gap, heads are pretty much going in the same direction, and they show their hands, even the one in the middle. We see her fingertips on each of the other girls. This shows that this is a type knit group. Of course, HC, Lucy, and the fans aren't going to be close, but there is an expectation that the two "lovebirds" are in synch.

Here is another pose fail:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY2O2y5jyb1/?tagged=henrycavill

Now, on this pic, Lucy and the fan are more in synch, with their head and feet. So far, HC and Lucy's score is zero.

Is this love or a dud? a major but consistent

@Poetist , What is your take on these Italy pics? https://www.instagram.com/p/BY80scBlW-8/?taken-by=henrycavill.chile

@culinary16 said:

@Poetist , What is your take on these Italy pics? https://www.instagram.com/p/BY80scBlW-8/?taken-by=henrycavill.chile

First with the positive, at least with this one, they are looking in the same direction. The negative, HC is walking ahead of Lucy. If a person walks ahead, it means that person wants to lead or be away from the partner. I don't think HC wants to lead. His feet direction doesn't appear to be in synch w/Lucy.

How they walk as a couple can tell the world if they're walking through in love or not.

Is this an out synch stroll? Yes.

HC and Lucy are not walking alongside each other. HC is stepping ahead. Western men and women walk in-step, women often walk behind the men in other places, but this is not the first time we see them walking out of synch. All we need to do is think back to Wimbledon.

Is this love or a dud?

Verdict: You guessed it a dud

He eventually grabs to hold her hands. See all pics, he genuinely looks happy. 😕 Most if not all couples holding hands, the men is slightly ahead.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=PKe4WdvuFOOZ0gLtl5_wAw&q=celebrity+couples+walking+holding+hands&oq=celebrity+couples+walking+holding+hands&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3...1026.4040.0.4821.11.11.0.0.0.0.404.2263.0j7j0j2j1.10.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-img..3.7.1537...35i39k1j0i13k1j0i8i13i30k1j30i10k1.B8nCVD9nnxk

Part II:

Here we have pictures in sequence of the above shot.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9SpwpjBYN/?tagged=henrycavill

It appears there was a narrow exit way between tables. HC walked through first. Lucy followed. HC remembered to turn to hold Lucy's hand, but he doesn't make contact.

If this were a true desire, he would have extended his hand behind him and lead her. That is IF he TRULY wanted to hold her hand, because there is no way to miss contact in that small of a space. It seems these two are not hot and heavy. They are just on display.

Now, here we see them holding hands.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9tRp2Fa3h/?tagged=henrycavill

When they are "caught" by the camera again, HC is showing that he is in control from his hand grasp, and he's strutting. However, Lucy is not looking in his direction. If you look at Lucy's left shoulder it is raised. Raised shoulders show tension. Her eyes are looking away and down. It is a submissive stance, but it is because she is not in control and feeling some tension. There is a camera, and she is not showing confidence.

In contrast, HC doesn't have raised shoulders. I guess he feels accomplished that there is the shot of them holding hands. LOL.

If you look at their eyes, they are both looking in COMPLETELY different directions.

HC is looking up to the right. That signals either he is trying to remember something, or he's thinking whether it is logical what a person is saying.

If Lucy was talking to him, it's usually a good sign, she has captured his attention, but she isn't.

It appears it is the former reason. That HC is trying to remember something. If you take a look at his chin, it is raised. This shows that HC is feeling confident (Mission Accomplished ), as he holds his head up and tilted slightly back.

Of course, neither one of them is smiling. There is a gap, and there is no symmetry. However, it is hard to do, when you are walking.

However, here is a good example of a couple that shows how to do it.

http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/husbands-secret-blake-25may17-07.jpg

It's a similar pose and situation, but Blake and her man keep some symmetry, closeness, and they look in the same direction.

However, nothing beats this. This shows true love when EVERYTHING is perfect and not fake, even when the cameras are rolling!

https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/28/540336/original/barack-obama-recording-artists-and-groups-photo-u85?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces

@Phoebe21 said:

He eventually grabs to hold her hands. See all pics, he genuinely looks happy. 😕 Most if not all couples holding hands, the men is slightly ahead.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=PKe4WdvuFOOZ0gLtl5_wAw&q=celebrity+couples+walking+holding+hands&oq=celebrity+couples+walking+holding+hands&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3...1026.4040.0.4821.11.11.0.0.0.0.404.2263.0j7j0j2j1.10.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-img..3.7.1537...35i39k1j0i13k1j0i8i13i30k1j30i10k1.B8nCVD9nnxk

I was writing a part-2 when you wrote your post. In regards to couples, I am looking for signs of love. Hence, the title of this thread. A man leading with the woman behind him is not all men in love with their woman.

@Poetist said:

Part II:

Here we have pictures in sequence of the above shot.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9SpwpjBYN/?tagged=henrycavill

It appears there was a narrow exit way between tables. HC walked through first. Lucy followed. HC remembered to turn to hold Lucy's hand, but he doesn't make contact.

If this were a true desire, he would have extended his hand behind him and lead her. That is IF he TRULY wanted to hold her hand, because there is no way to miss contact in that small of a space. It seems these two are not hot and heavy. They are just on display.

Now, here we see them holding hands.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9tRp2Fa3h/?tagged=henrycavill

When they are "caught" by the camera again, HC is showing that he is in control from his hand grasp, and he's strutting. However, Lucy is not looking in his direction. If you look at Lucy's left shoulder it is raised. Raised shoulders show tension. Her eyes are looking away and down. It is a submissive stance, but it is because she is not in control and feeling some tension. There is a camera, and she is not showing confidence.

In contrast, HC doesn't have raised shoulders. I guess he feels accomplished that there is the shot of them holding hands. LOL.

If you look at their eyes, they are both looking in COMPLETELY different directions.

HC is looking up to the right. That signals either he is trying to remember something, or he's thinking whether it is logical what a person is saying.

If Lucy was talking to him, it's usually a good sign, she has captured his attention, but she isn't.

It appears HC it is the former. That HC is trying to remember something. If you take a look at his chin, it is raised. This shows that HC is feeling confident (Mission Accomplished ), as he holds his head up and tilted slightly back.

He seems super confident here. It seems the guys inside were giving him attention and showing him praise and he was probably thanking them.

@Poetist said:

Part II:

Here we have pictures in sequence of the above shot.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9SpwpjBYN/?tagged=henrycavill

It appears there was a narrow exit way between tables. HC walked through first. Lucy followed. HC remembered to turn to hold Lucy's hand, but he doesn't make contact.

If this were a true desire, he would have extended his hand behind him and lead her. That is IF he TRULY wanted to hold her hand, because there is no way to miss contact in that small of a space. It seems these two are not hot and heavy. They are just on display.

Now, here we see them holding hands.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY9tRp2Fa3h/?tagged=henrycavill

When they are "caught" by the camera again, HC is showing that he is in control from his hand grasp, and he's strutting. However, Lucy is not looking in his direction. If you look at Lucy's left shoulder it is raised. Raised shoulders show tension. Her eyes are looking away and down. It is a submissive stance, but it is because she is not in control and feeling some tension. There is a camera, and she is not showing confidence.

In contrast, HC doesn't have raised shoulders. I guess he feels accomplished that there is the shot of them holding hands. LOL.

If you look at their eyes, they are both looking in COMPLETELY different directions.

HC is looking up to the right. That signals either he is trying to remember something, or he's thinking whether it is logical what a person is saying.

If Lucy was talking to him, it's usually a good sign, she has captured his attention, but she isn't.

It appears HC it is the former. That HC is trying to remember something. If you take a look at his chin, it is raised. This shows that HC is feeling confident (Mission Accomplished ), as he holds his head up and tilted slightly back.

Of course, neither one of them is smiling. There is a gap, and there is no symmetry. However, it is hard to do, when you are walking.

However, here is a good example of a couple that shows how to do it.

http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/husbands-secret-blake-25may17-07.jpg

It's a similar pose and situation, but Blake and her man keep some symmetry, closeness, and they look in the same direction.

However, nothing beats this. This shows true love when EVERYTHING is perfect and not fake, even when the cameras are rolling!

https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/28/540336/original/barack-obama-recording-artists-and-groups-photo-u85?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces

Those photos are no different from the ones we saw of Wimbledon. They appear to be in their early, getting-to-know-each-other, stage of relationship (?) and seem at times awkward and out-of-sync. I'd be willing to accept that this relationship might be real if their first public outing wasn't preceded by a PR piece on Pagesix or The Sun (I can't remember which one outed the couple first). Before the news came out, was there any inkling/hearsay that Henry might be seeing someone except that DL thread that Poetist mentioned?

@watsonjudy835 said:

Those photos are no different from the ones we saw of Wimbledon. They appear to be in their early, getting-to-know-each-other, stage of relationship (?) and seem at times awkward and out-of-sync.

Yeah, it reads awkward, because it's staged. They can't be anything but awkward, when they have to REMEMBER to move in closer and hold hands. Still, as I said, you can't fake body language. There are always going to be tell-tale signs if a couple tries to pretend to be in love. It's easier for one person to fake the funk, but when you add in two people, you really have to practice. It's almost like a dance that they need to perform in order to get it right.

I'd be willing to accept that this relationship might be real if their first public outing wasn't preceded by a PR piece on Pagesix or The Sun (I can't remember which one outed the couple first). Before the news came out, was there any inkling/hearsay that Henry might be seeing someone except that DL thread that Poetist mentioned?

According to Tsheva, there was talk on WDW. Maybe, someone who visits that forum can confirm. Then again, this is beard season for HC, but the DL post was detailed in saying in April that Dany was going to order up a stunt chick for the job.

@Poetist , I've read on wdw that this page posted the pics first https://www.weibo.com/u/2485456992?refer_flag=1001030201_&is_hot=1

I heard through wdw that someone messaged that page and they said an Italian photographer sent the pics and claimed he was paid to take the pics.

@culinary16 said:

@Poetist , I've read on wdw that this page posted the pics first https://www.weibo.com/u/2485456992?refer_flag=1001030201_&is_hot=1

I heard through wdw that someone messaged that page and they said an Italian photographer sent the pics and claimed he was paid to take the pics.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time a professional photog was hired by HC and company. He did the exact same thing when Kailey was bearding for him. He probably hired the same dude he used to take a pic w/Gina. It seems the photographer uses THE SAME filters as he did with Gina. Plus, the shots from both beards were taken at night after a "romantic" dinner.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/09/article-2451027-18A12BD000000578-622_634x938.jpg

Here, you clearly can see HC is aware of the photog AND ready for his closeup.

https://wx4.sinaimg.cn/mw690/94251060ly1fjh5o4wsmuj21kw2dc7wh.jpg

Do I see a big ol' cameltoe on HC?

LOL.

@Poetist said:

@culinary16 said:

@Poetist , I've read on wdw that this page posted the pics first https://www.weibo.com/u/2485456992?refer_flag=1001030201_&is_hot=1

I heard through wdw that someone messaged that page and they said an Italian photographer sent the pics and claimed he was paid to take the pics.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time a professional photog was hired by HC and company. He did the exact same thing when Kailey was bearding for him. He probably hired the same dude he used to take a pic w/Gina. It seems the photographer uses THE SAME filters as he did with Gina. Plus, the shots from both beards were taken at night after a "romantic" dinner.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/09/article-2451027-18A12BD000000578-622_634x938.jpg

Here, you clearly can see HC is aware of the photog AND ready for his closeup.

https://wx4.sinaimg.cn/mw690/94251060ly1fjh5o4wsmuj21kw2dc7wh.jpg

Do I see a big ol' cameltoe on HC?

LOL.

Oops, rookie mistake. You don't look straight into the camera.

@watsonjudy835 said:

@Poetist said:

@culinary16 said:

@Poetist , I've read on wdw that this page posted the pics first https://www.weibo.com/u/2485456992?refer_flag=1001030201_&is_hot=1

I heard through wdw that someone messaged that page and they said an Italian photographer sent the pics and claimed he was paid to take the pics.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time a professional photog was hired by HC and company. He did the exact same thing when Kailey was bearding for him. He probably hired the same dude he used to take a pic w/Gina. It seems the photographer uses THE SAME filters as he did with Gina. Plus, the shots from both beards were taken at night after a "romantic" dinner.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/09/article-2451027-18A12BD000000578-622_634x938.jpg

Here, you clearly can see HC is aware of the photog AND ready for his closeup.

https://wx4.sinaimg.cn/mw690/94251060ly1fjh5o4wsmuj21kw2dc7wh.jpg

Do I see a big ol' cameltoe on HC?

LOL.

Oops, rookie mistake. You don't look straight into the camera.

LOL. Well, HC is no one's actor. That would totally get on Speilberg's nerves. Oprah said she used to do that on the set of The Color Purple. She didn't know any better, because she was trained to look into the camera as a TV news reporter. When she was telling this, it was so funny. I can't seem to find it, but it was from The Talk.

Lucy-Cork-Fan aka Team-Anti-Lucy-Cork aka Lucy-Cork-1980 calls Poetist a psychologist because of his jibber jabber about body language.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BY_7bArnDkg/?taken-by=lucycork1980

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZAt_3XHFS0/?taken-by=lucycork1980

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZAuUfxHdRI/?taken-by=lucycork1980

I thought Poetist aka Ploughsharetortoise is just a gay men whose only purpose in life is to convince the world that some moderately known actor is gay. It turns out he's a psychologist too.

Cavill's charity work doesn't include only Durrell and TRM. This moderately known actor is giving a handful of people a reason to exist too. They're stuck in his time loop with him.

Is a good thing Poetist isn't a Sebastian Stan fan. Stan doesn't take his girlfriend anywhere. You see them running together after break up rumors surface. PR? A dud? Beard?

Stan also spends LOTS and LOTS of time with his trainer and male friends. Gay?

Since when does everybody behave the same? What happen to individuality?

With all the awful things going on in the world, it really amazes me that grownups find pleasure in doing what you people are doing.